Some Frequently Asked Q's

about Rolex watches and SUBGMT. 

Rolex and Patek watches and buying and selling these online bring a lot of questions. Here some good and not so good questions we often get. If you have a question that needs to be in this section please let us know at:


Can you buy a Rolex or Patek Philippe without papers?

Yes of course you can do it but it is not always wise to do...  A Rolex or Patek of let's say 20-25 years old - there are not many of them anymore with the box and papers, people did not know that it would mean an extra value in 2020 and after a year of warranty they were thrown away along with the sales warranty card of the dish washer, or they are misplaced or lost after 4 house moves.

An additional thing is that these "complete" watches are now worth so much more money, which attracts crooks and thieves who will forge papers, which is very simple of course. So .... It is best to buy a vintage Rolex or Patek, but then from a good party where all numbers are listed on a consecutive numbered invoice.

However! A Rolex or Patek of 10 years old or younger, is best bought with papers. For the past ten years, everyone knows how important the papers are, so an undocumented watch comes out of a divorce or has been stolen or something else is wrong with it - with some exceptions of course. For us, these 10 years are a kind of magical limit, and without papers we will not purchase anything older than 2010 without papers, with the exception of Patek Philippe where you can request an extract, so that you know that the watch is OK. Young Rolex without papers: penny wise - pound foulish. Our 2 cents ...